Samantha Goldberg to Marni Gold; It’s Nothing Personal

 

By Paul Pannone

In a story that’s shocking the wedding business but not surprising to those familiar with the details, Samantha Goldberg underscored original statements assuring her written criticisms against Marni Gold are Nothing Personal. Goldberg continues to slam Gold in all Social Media circles, slowly joined by others who say they too were burned by Marni Gold in the past.

Samanth Goldberg has relentlessly gone after people and organizations she feels do not have the best interest of the wedding business and its members, including Wedding Wire. In late 2011 Goldberg rocked Wedding Wire’s world and gained the support of wedding vendors who agreed they had been wronged by the review website.

 

Marni Gold told eWedNewz she doesn’t know why she is being tormented by Samantha Goldberg. Samantha Goldberg assures Marni Gold it’s “nothing personal”.

 

In a follow-up statement to the story Goldberg said the following:

“I would like to add, I thank everyone for your support on Twitter, FB and more…My goal is to focus on what is right, truthful and the standards in which our end-user expect. Look around you, it’s the end-user who suffers due to vendors like this who take a REALLY good thing, and turn it into something I have no words for. I have not 1 reason to have a PERSONAL “vendetta” of Mrs Gold..I don’t know her, never met her to even get to know her and honestly, I don’t care to at this point. The key word here is it’s NOT PERSONAL – It’s the actions of the person which I want to stop.

My fear for the “end-user” ( of the various seminar subjects and it’s attendees) which are not directed to Marni personally is that someone always suffers with each idea she has.. Why share information in a misleading fashion if you claim to do good? Why was the non-profit not shared with the public?

I have shared tangible proof.

Marni asked for me to share my thoughts…I did. I shared my goal to stop this nonsense so that those in the know or not- Will not have to keep the everlasting wall of being uncertain up-How can one trust any good deed when you have things like this that linger every-time? You have to question if your investment is REALLY going to the cause and or topic of seminar being what it claims..

It never used to be this way…I hope that we as an industry can regroup and retrain so we can continue LOVING what we do instead of not trusting our peers. It happens everyday and M Gold is not the only person who allows for this…

Again, my focus is NOT personal nor is my goal to destroy or defame…It’s to make you aware…Not being aware for those who have been public, they would share the road to recovery/trust is usually a long one and for some resulted leaving our industry which honestly is/was a shame. We have lost some great leaders based on issues such as this…If defame/destroy is the result it’s not due to me alerting those to be aware and more so facts that become public which help me to stop such nonsense and follow the same actions to stick with the facts. I have Facts,” says Goldberg.

Others support Goldberg including Dorinda Duclos of New Jersey. In an Sunday morning exchange on Facebook Duclos says she was victimized by Gold in the past and is ready to give proof if need be. Duclos raises questions about Marni Gold’s most recent project guided by her experience .

“If she’s so high on WUWNJ, why isn’t the charity’s name being used on the Facebook page for this event? It claims to be donated to our non-profit of choice. There’s a lot out there and it makes me sick that she’s still getting away with this crap,” said Duclos.

eWedNewz dug deeper while alerting Duclos the story has many twists and turns with behind-the-scene information of which most people are unaware.

” I am speaking about Marni (Gold) and applauding Samantha for taking a stand. It’s gone on long enough. I have had my own dealings with Marni and really wish this to all come to an end; sooner than later,” said Duclos.

The story became public over the weekend but is known by those who say Marni Gold has a history of failures and dubious allegations. So-far no tangible proof has been presented but, according to Goldberg and now Duclos both say they can substantiate their claims with facts.

Goldberg and Duclos are both members of the Wedding Water Cooler. They’re joined by other members of the group discussing the story who are also throwing daggers at Marni Gold’s method of recruitment and invitation to speak at events. Some say they’re refraining from any involvement until more facts come to light.

So-far an overwhelming majority (54%) side with Samantha Goldberg while a smaller representation of people (8%) side with Marni Gold on the story.

What do you think?

 

 

eWedNewz continues our investigation into this story.

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Wedding Website Update: Same Old Story, Just like the Wedding Business

By Paul Pannone

It’s the time of year when wedding websites run their Best of part of their program to hype themselves and try to convince wedding vendors how important it will be to renew their advertising for another year. Members of the Wedding Water Cooler are active this week punching holes in some of the most culpable websites saying they’re weary of listening to the same old song and dance. Many of the Coolies say they’re amazed at how many wedding vendors still support some of the tired old sites, despite repackaged pitches and revamped pages.

 

According to Wedding Water Cooler experts the lies are all the same but they’ve gotten better at lying.

 

 Wedding website whistle-blower, David Fuhrer updated his 2011 statement denouncing the practices of some websites which, in his view, remain relatively unchanged for the past five-years.

“What is remarkable is the lack of innovation upon websites such as The Knot, My Wedding, Wedding Wire. It is remarkable in the sense that a complete lack of value-incentive-propositions have been derived that increase the value of what they offer vendors. From a vendor foundation perspective all of the aforementioned haven’t evolved an iota, they remain circa 5 years ago. This is the fundamental rationale for why my perspective was, and has remained unchanged, that these sites possess a finite shelf-life. In essence their “roads” do not lead to “forks”, they lead to “brick walls”. The concentration has been wholly upon the user-experience & augmenting that experience. The means by which they have augmented is via pilfering off of each other.

The Knot was not a “review” website, it was an exposure website, they now offer user reviews. Wedding Wire was a review website, yet they now offer personalized websites. My Wedding was a personalized website offering that now has reviews. Instead of innovating, they are all supposedly enhancing, via broadening their offerings to the demographic with what can be found on the other websites. They then, pass along, these value-add’s, to prospective vendors in the form of “yes” we do that & even better & more intuitively than other competing sites,” he told the Water Cooler.

The website discussion stemmed from an ongoing story involving a 20/20 segment that got the wedding business to stand up and announce they’re not a bunch of crooks, opposing the way they were depicted in the segment. In an ongoing eWedNewz investigation about wedding marketers in the business, wedding websites and the fairy dust purported are part of the same story, giving vendors misinformation on how to treat consumers.

Chris Evans was interviewed for the 20/20 segment and mentioned his Boot Camp approach to selling. Evan’s business view of marriage is discussed in the Wedding water Cooler and singled out due to the attention it gathered in the 20/20 segment. Members of the group along with other wedding sources being interviewed for an upcoming eWedNewz story say the hard selling and lack of bedside, emotional approach is what’s giving the wedding business a bad name.

According to the Wedding water Cooler discussions wedding marketing and websites need to undergo a major overhaul to appeal to new wedding consumers who no longer turn to websites and older methods– replaced by Social media and referrals from their friends.

 

What do you think?

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Educating Consumers Against Online Pirates is the Key to Winning the War

By Paul Pannone

An ongoing eWedNewz investigation shifts from the usual wedding industry politics and debate of whether Steve Lang– or anybody– should be at the forefront of a movement to stem the growing concerns involving the online sale of knock-off merchandise. Lang is bashed by a rising number of pundits that say they have a better way to fight the fight but mysteriously stay behind the scenes, dropping comments and criticism without all the facts.

Industry members who’ve supported Lang from the start step forward to make public statements supporting the way he has carried forward plans outlined at the start of the campaign and remains focused on seeing them through. But the movement could face greater opposition and possibly stall, as pledges and promises slow.

 

The American Bridal & Prom Industry association faces political pressure by pundits who can’t get past their distaste for the organization’s leader.

 

Lang critics say they doubt his sincerity and refuse to take his words for face value, choosing instead to dream up reasons why he should not be supported. Meanwhile the real victims– consumers– are being ripped off by websites that fail to provide the service and quality deserved by brides planning the biggest day of their life.

In the Wedding Water Cooler discussions focused on the Consumer part of the issue faulting them for their greed and wanting the highest quality for the cheapest prices. Politics aside some of the members including Jim Duhe, one of the supporters for Lang’s campaign, defended the average online buyer.

“Who are these consumers who buy dresses online — sight unseen?  They’re ordinary people — not unlike you and me — except that they know nothing about the bridal retail business.  Many don’t want to “negotiate” a price.  They just want to pay a price that they can afford for something that they want — without haggling and without negotiation.   They are people who aren’t familiar with custom ordered merchandise or the meaning of the term.  Many  confuse “custom order” with custom made.  They are people who have sticker shock when they look at the price tag on the gown they want at a bridal shop.  Their bridal gown is the most expensive single garment that some of these women ever have or will purchase.  They’re people who usually shop at Macy’s or Target or Walmart.  Many aren’t accustomed to the “service” that a bridal shop provides and therefore don’t understand it or place no value upon it.

To many of us in the business, a $500 gown is inexpensive.  These people — just like you and me — think that $500 is a lot of money for a dress that will be worn for just a few hours.  If they feel that way about a $500 gown, how do you think they feel about a $2,500 gown?  They are people who are becoming increasingly more comfortable with buying many things online and being pleased with their purchase and/or the dollars that they saved by shopping online.  They may be fools for trusting that the gown in the picture will be the gown that they can own for $99 — but — they’re our fools — they’re our customers — they’re our bread and butter.  Believe it or not, they can and do survive without us.  However, we can’t survive without them.  It’s up to us to save them from themselves.

When your customer visits one of the counterfeit web sites, she sometimes can read an endless number of comments by other “consumers” who report positive experiences with merchandise purchased from this site.   She has become accustomed to review sites that provide legitimate consumer comments.  Your customer has no reason to believe that reviews on a counterfeit site are phony.  She wants to believe what she reads.  Your customers always will view your warning about counterfeit sites with some degree of suspicion.  After all it’s your role to sell her an expensive gown — not to recommend a web site that will undermine your profit.   The gravity of this situation is compounded by the fact that counterfeit gown sites aren’t reviewed by Wedding Wire or any of the other retail review sites.  More importantly, the review sites provide no warning to consumers about the likelihood of fraud when buying from the counterfeit sites.

While this situation represents a bloody war, that doesn’t mean that each of us can’t or shouldn’t play a role in fighting and winning a few of the battles.  Steve is off to a great start and continues to play a crucial role.  He has taken the first step.  However, none of us should count on any one resource to fight and win all the battles.

For starters, manufacturers should issue a strong policy statement on their web sites regarding the the dangers of buying any gown from an unauthorized dealer or on ANY web site.   Sounds easy?  No.  It isn’t.  The majority of manufacturers sell to retailers who sell their gowns on line.  Manufacturers don’t necessarily want to admit that they sell to online retailers — even if they are legitimate.  Moreover, how can a consumer differentiate between a legitimate online retailer and a counterfeit retailer if the manufacturer is incapable of doing it?  Unfortunately, many manufacturers have unclean hands.

I have no sway with retail review sites.  However, the manufacturers who support them with advertising dollars definitely have a voice.  The second step is to insure that ALL review sites issue warning statements about internet gown purchases and counterfeit web sites.   It isn’t enough for a single manufacturer to demand this of the review sites.   A large group of important manufacturers should speak with the same voice and offer a consolidated front.

Similarly, all bridal publications — both regional and national — should include statements warning consumers about the dangers of internet gown purchases.  Ideally, publications should include this information on their web sites as well.  This is easy enough and most of the major players already have agreed to cooperate — but most isn’t ALL.

Third . . . all bridal show operations should be prepared to issue statements about internet gown purchases and counterfeit web sites.  This should be a standard statement in every show program and on every show website.

Fourth . . . all bridal retailers should include a statement on their web sites regarding internet gown purchases and counterfeit web sites.  Rather than steer away from the topic, retailers should address the issue as part of every sales pitch — address it as an objection to closing the sale.

Fifth . . . every bridal publication and bridal web site should publish any and all negative statements made by consumers regarding internet and counterfeit gown purchases.  Ideally, every bridal blog should carry a statement about internet gown sales and counterfeit gown sites as well.

If you can think of any other way to publicize this problem, I certainly wouldn’t be offended by your making an addition to this list.  Some of the most gifted and brilliant people in the industry read Paul Pannone’s NewZ stories.  They don’t always agree with them — but they read them.  It’s time to involve all of them in addressing this problem.  Again . . . if you’re not willing to be a part of the solution, you are definitely a part of the problem.

Rather than dismiss the consumer who is burned by a counterfeit gown purchase, we should all embrace them and offer sincere condolences for the death of their innocence as an internet shopper.  Be prepared not to win every argument on this topic.  After all, there are warnings on every cigarette package but people still smoke,” according to Duhe.

Duhe mentions “most is not all” when it comes to participation, leading eWedNewz back to the political portion of the debate. eWedNewz investigates further and found major manufacturers who have not come on board and have stopped communicating with Lang. In one case an original pledge of $50,000 dollars shrunk to only $10,000 from the IBMA. The organization continues to hold on to over $250,000 dollars in funds collected over its existence.

In the interim eWedNewz discovered Lang intends to make good on his original plan to provide affordable health care to all size wedding industry business members through the ABPIA organization umbrella. Lang told eWedNewz he is interviewing insurance companies who may qualify to provide health care to the group members, making the $100 membership fee more than reasonable.

Overnight, voters who feel there is a fair-to-excellent chance of beating online piracy in the wedding business dropped two points, down from 75% to 73%. 16% of poll results so far say it will be an impossible  task.

What do you think?

 

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The Week of September 24th in Review

 

 

By Paul Pannone

 

New information involving Wedding Wire made top newZ this week as the company continues to struggle to grow in a shrinking wedding market and constant complaints about how they rate vendors. Critics of Wedding Wire including Samantha Goldberg continue to bang the drum against the website listing company that is coming under attack by a rising number of (paying) vendors who find it difficult to communicate with the company.

Despite the criticism Wedding Wire received more funding from Spectrum Equity investors in the amount of $25 million dollars for a limited stake in the company.

Wedding website weasels continue to scatter as the war waged by the American Bridal and Prom Industry Association gains speed and support by wedding industry members. A meeting with Steve Lang, founder of the association, in Chicago says he’s pleased with the results so far but admits there is a long road ahead.

70% of an ongoing eWedNewz poll so far feels Lang’s efforts pose a fair to excellent chance of winning the war, while 30% feel the chances are poor to impossible. In a separate poll 95% of eWedNewz respondents say they support a general wedding industry organization that is well run, offers benefits and is not expensive to join.

FLOW formal’s Yellow Bow Tie campaign added new products to their efforts, including top seller, SWAGGER. Major wholesalers are picking up on the campaign and are asking their key accounts to do the same.

Consumer brides shopping for their 2013 weddings are researching the cost of wedding gowns, driving up an eWedNewz  story about the Knot we ran last June.

 

 

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Wedding Wire Gets More Funding

By Paul Pannone

eWedNewz has learned the Catalyst Group’s Wedding Wire has secured $25 million dollars of funding from Spectrum Equity for a minority stake in the company. The five-year-old company originally raised $5.5 million from Martha Stewart Living Omnimedia. Four years later, Martha Stewart sold its stake to Catalyst Investors, more than doubling its money.

 

Spectrum Equity hands over 25$ million to Catalyst for a minority stake in Wedding Wire.

 

Sources near the story say the company is profitable enough to have pulled in the infusion of capital needed to grow the company further.

Members of the Wedding Water Cooler discussed the latest newZ. Some feel the Wedding Wire format is sorely lacking in some areas, especially in the review system that irritates most vendor/advertisers. According to sources in the WWC the company has managed to spin information in a palpable way, sidestepping the discord between vendors that receive bad reviews; unable to get them removed or corrected.

One source told the group of a possible alignment with another company that could change the entire structure of Wedding Wire. The information, derived from recent meetings and support from wedding industry sources, say there are more changes expected at Wedding Wire. eWedNewz continues to investigate the information.

In an ongoing poll 33% of readers voting call Wedding Wire “great” while 40% say the company is “flawed” or the “best we have” at the moment. 19% call Wedding Wire “horrible” while only 4% feel they’re trying to change.

 

 

 

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So What Makes a Successful Wedding Business Owner? PASSION

 

By Paul Pannone

In an ongoing eWedNewz story involving Wedding Wire responses, both public and private, say the major part lacking in the wedding website’s repertoire is passion. A growing number of complaints against Wedding Wire cite impenetrable barriers, lack of communication and a corporate approach to a very emotional business.

 

 Even Wedding Wire needs passion.

 

According to Samantha Goldberg passion is missing in 90% of wedding industry businesses;

I have worked over 2000 weddings and not including business events for 23 years…I have no idea how many honestly all I care about is for those to stay ethical. If Wedding Wire is going to allow for those scam artists to take advantage of what our customer needs; they won’t pay attention or remove my bad score, even though there is nothing that stays consistent with this, no one wants bad feedback, especially in our world..Why? We’re PASSIONATE PEOPLE WITH A PASSIONATE goal.

How many passionate people actually make it? Who works smarter not harder? 10% if we are lucky; Fact or Fiction? FACT.

Our industry has 90% dabblers. If this (the wedding business) doesn’t work, they try something else..In fact, we have specific people who have more “jobs” in a month than Sybil and her 17 personalities. Yet, no one says anything? Have you ever wondered why most don’t make it? Prob not, as most don’t care. Why? Well it starts with the service provider and then their means to get their name out there. All it takes is something like Wedding Wire to blow that in areas that leave providers– not the brides. They ARE the customer. Without us Without them? Where will you be in 2013?”

According to Goldberg wedding service providers begin with passion but soon become frustrated and fall short in the end. She cites some specific reasons why she feels this happens.

 

1. Not properly trained
2. Not properly supported by similar peers or leaders in any sense that doesn’t have a dollar amount on it.
3. Not passionate for the long haul.
4. Not innovative based on where we are now.
5. NO proper education
6. No guidelines or programs to make sure we are all on the same page.
7. Too many of those who sell how they made it, based solely on what worked for them. Everyone is different; what works for one may not work for the other and certainly not for everyone.

The last and not final reason it’s the one I dread the most. While speaking with some industry leaders, I heard for the first time,  they said “My Job”. In reality we have a career; a career that lasts. A job is just a really lifeless activity that pays for food on the table. What is missing? Passion. It’s gone for so many; I am sad.

 eWedNewz continues out investigation and coverage and welcomes your thoughts. Do you agree with Goldberg? Do you lack passion?

 

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More Complaints Against Wedding Wire Despite New Owners

By Paul Pannone

An explosive story that began in December, 2011 continues to leave retailers helpless against a rating system  that does not accurately portray solid businesses that have an occasional bad day. In an ongoing investigation a growing number of businesses say that the promise of a new owner, the Catalyst Group, has not lived up to expectations.

According to rising complaints Wedding Wire has not improved performance for paying advertisers under new ownership.

 

An increasing number of sources reaching out to this newZ source claim that as paying advertisers they’re not getting the value or respect they deserve. Some told eWedNewz as summer wedding couples return from their honeymoons and get settled into their new life they’re going over their wedding day and coming up with reasons to trash their vendors.

Rebecca Smith of A Bride’s Best Friend in Florida complains how a single bad review drags down her score;

“It’s bringing my score down to a 4.9 and I can’t argue or take it down,” she said on Twitter.

Under Wedding Wire’s rating system a perfect score gets shattered forever once a vendor receives less than a perfect score. That’s what set off a war between Wedding Wire and Samantha Goldberg in 2011 that brought the flaws to national attention. Wedding Wire eventually dismissed Goldberg but in an interview this week the fight is far from over, according to the feisty Celebrity event planner.

“I’m gathering more information and statements from unhappy vendors and will have much more to say in the very near future,” according to Goldberg.

Goldberg is getting help from other wedding planners in her fight including Bitchless Bride. The fuschia-wigged, potty-mouthed morph of Lady GaGa talked to eWedNewz recently and gives reasons why the wedding business must rid itself of these types of safe harbors for bitching brides if it wants to heal itself. Bitchless told eWedNewz she has a bead on scams and scam artists that take people’s money and give all vendors and wedding experts a bad name.

“I love that lady; she says what all of us think and would love to say. For people like me that really want to help the bride I hope that I can always communicate and reason with them. With websites like Wedding Wire it’s a rip-cord and incentive not to and just another way for brides to go and rant and really hurt a vendor’s reputation in a momentary fit of rage,” says Rebecca Smith.

 An ongoing poll shows and even split of how wedding websites will become in the future. What do you think?

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Businesses Staying Away from Advertising on Websites Besides Their Own

By Paul Pannone

An ongoing story investigation about the re-launch and revamp of wedding websites uncovers additional information and how businesses are investing money in their own websites and Social Media campaigns. Part of the reason given includes better control and watch over web traffic and not having to deal with complicated sales agreement with advertising websites.

 

An ongoing poll so-far shows little or no interest in the Get Married relaunch and advertising on third-part wedding websites.

 

In May The Knot admitted how growing competition hampers growth. The monthly addition to the online resources available to consumers– namely wedding couples– is having a negative impact due to information overload.

“Who do you believe? With all the information out there, how does a consumer navigate and once they find a resource how can they be sure the information they’re reading is accurate?” asks Jim Duhe of Bridal Guide Magazine.

A current poll shows over 35% of respondents say they’re no longer supporting advertising websites. The rest of the poll shows a negative response towards the Get Married relaunch and all other wedding websites.

In January eWedNewz reported an uptick in wedding business activity. Business owners we spoke with said they planned to upgrade their advertising and marketing, investing in their own, in-house, advertising and marketing programs. Recent revisit and updates are consistent with the early 2012 reports.

 

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The Week of July 16th in Review

 

By Paul Pannone

 

Old, thought defunct and established websites needing a new image are getting re-vamped, as many are not able to be sold but still have value. Get Married gets a revamp but a current poll says advertisers are no longer interested in paying for third-party websites. But despite the move to change their ways the Taylor Corporation has a difficult road ahead, as most businesses invest and promote their own website and Social Networking campaigns instead of investing in third-party websites, according to an ongoing poll.

A move by the Barak Obama re-election campaign to get brides to fork over their wedding gifts has all but failed. In less than a month reports, supported by an ongoing eWedNewz poll, say the campaign is a bomb.

 

 

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Old Website names Revamp and re-launch

 

By Paul Pannone

Expect a rash of re-launches and regurgitated reshuffling for the fall, 2012, and Spring, 2013, seasons of properties with a value but can’t be sold. These properties will not shutdown, leaving little or no alternative than to try to reinvent themselves. Recent announcements include  Wedding Wire and Get Married.

 

Guess who is back? New, improved, talking to the press and ready to Rock and Roll.

An announcement by Get Married said the following:

MINNEAPOLIS, July 11, 2012 /PRNewswire/ – GetMarried has launched an exciting new website. GetMarried will be an inspirational haven for brides-to-be, spotlighting fresh ideas, charming details and stylish trends.

GetMarried will offer a comprehensive point of view and provide a forum to exchange ideas, thoughts and favorite things. The new site will feature a blog format to encourage conversation among its readers. Guest contributors will also offer a fresh point of view and new stories on featured categories.

Editor of GetMarried, Heather Dempsey, is excited about the new format and launch. “The focus of GetMarried is on enhancing moments that celebrate love, friendship and all things life has to offer – and most importantly, weddings. The site will inspire you to go and do the things you want for your big day – or any other occasion. GetMarried is a place where inspiration meets celebration and becomes you!”

Complemented by a dedicated Facebook page and Pinterest boards, RSS Feeds and Email, GetMarried is very much a pictorial site allowing photography and design to tell stories that evoke delight, thought and inspiration. GetMarried will showcase real weddings and welcome submissions from its readers.

GetMarried is full to the brim with what brides are looking for. Some regular features include: Today I Love…, ColorCrush, My Pinterest Picks, FabFinds along with how-to advice, real wedding stories, tips, trends, fashion, photography, valuable blogs, planning details and invitations galore.

Heather Dempsey, Editor, gave eWedNewz a quick response to several questions including the ownership and management of the new Get Married.

“Yes, it’s a property of the Taylor Corporation,” she admitted.

The question was ignored and skirted under the first Get Married go-around that included Stacie Francombe, leading to a further eWedNewz investigation and eventually a shutdown of the website. Along the way reports of mismanagement, improprieties, sexual intrigue and a host of nastiness is replaced by a new, fresh approach to the bride, according to new management.

The Wedding Wire story remains to be seen. Extreme pressure and ongoing arrogance seems to be giving way to some improvements to the website.

eWedNewz continues to watch all the major websites try to adjust the higher demands of consumers and the impact of Social Media and private pages used by brides to plan their wedding events.

 

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